Nomian Seepage from Dan_Dread's blog

Culture is kind of like a blanket. From region to region, depending on the influence of a variety of factors including religion, family values, governmental policy, media influence(which are all interwoven) the blanket will differ in feel and fabric, yet wherever you go, it is there.


That blanket is what I like to call the nomos, or the sum total of the influence and coverage of that 'blanket' in any given region. Regardless of what individual views one might hold, or what psychological predisposition one might hold, both are woven into the nomos though ones proximity to it, and the fact that it can cover you to the extent that you can not see past it or though it. This blanket of nomos becomes a blanket of what is right/what is good, as the memetic nature of such nomian fabric is always self affirming. This is why we see things such as right and wrong, good and bad, placed into objective hardspots rather than being recognised as the arbitrary relatives they are.


The LHP, as I see it, holds a unique spot in this order, a tricky spot. If the nature of the LHP, as per the nastika/aghori is to break this nomian fabric that provides the soil for this self affirming dualism, how then do we interact with each other, which creates 'nomos' as byproduct? When too much of this 'nomos', these value hardpoints(think LaVey) seep into the very toolset for destroying these things, to what point can we honestly define what we are doing, categorically, as LHP?


From where I sit this has become pandemic. What is memetically recognised as Satanism has slowly subsumed as more and more nomian valuations have seeped in. We have those that would style themselves as 'Satanic' leaders offering us excuses en mass as to why we should obey, how we can 'use satanism' to better fit in to the prefabricated world set before us. We have 'Satanic spokesmen' telling us how rational self interest, which can be properly understood as a one size fits all excuse for inaction, is the highest 'Satanic value'. We have 'Satanic organizations' claiming laudability based on paying their taxes and obeying the prefabricated rules for allowing their existence. 


We have a whole generation of would-be's that are completely conflict averse, both unwilling and unable to evaluate their own positions critically because of some sense of entitlement to their views, as the stamp of egalitarianism leaves it's mark.


So what happens when the tool for breaking chains is itself replaced by a chain?


Are you a 'nomian Satanist'? Do you sit back and let the dead mouth of LaVey or his living, yet hollow echos speak for you?  Or do you challenge yourself, put yourself at odds with it, put yourself in danger from it, so that you might gain your own voice?




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LeDeluge
Nov 13 '13
I think the folly of adding more "concrete things" can be demonstrated in "The Pit" thread. The folly should be self-evident. It is better to write for posterity. That will inevitably include theory and appear somewhat esoteric. The intent does have to = the manifestation, but I don't see an issue in leaving the specifics a bit open-ended.I think the folly of adding more "concrete things" can be demonstrated in "The Pit" thread. The folly should be self-evident. It is better to write for posterity. That will inevita...See more
LeDeluge
Nov 13 '13
Antinomian Musings sounds like a chardonnay.
LeDeluge
Nov 13 '13
I'll be generous and call it oak. You have to drink it whilst reading Kerouac at the same speed he wrote. 1 Gallon minimum.
Mr_Scare
Nov 14 '13
Liked the blog Dread, sorry it has taken so long to respond.

There are many things I would like to ask you, but I will select a short few questions which I would most like to hear your opinion on.

1. Can one do and partake in specific Satanic things or activities?

2. Or, is that they do specific things/activities in a Satanic way?

I am not sure that anything I do is altogether 'Satanic', but I would say for sure that I do carry them out in a Satanic method.

One thing I do almost on a daily basis, is this;

I like to live my life, questioning everything, even myself. I like to dupe people into thinking certain ways, and make them doubt their own beliefs. It is amazingly good fun, making a person question something that he holds dear to his heart.

Even IF you are feeding the guy complete bullshit that you don't believe yourself, it is uplifting to make the person ask himself: "What if he is right?"

I have no care if I am caught out, or punished for it. I just like manipulating things. It isn't something I would consider to be malicious, or "evil", it is just good fun.

Is this Satanic?

I do not know if anything I do is overly 'Satanic'.
Liked the blog Dread, sorry it has taken so long to respond.

There are many things I would like to ask you, but I will select a short few questions which I would most like to hear your ...See more
Interrogist
Nov 17 '13
Neil- "1. Can one do and partake in specific Satanic things or activities? 2. Or, is that they do specific things/activities in a Satanic way?"

LMMFAO

The Satanic Euthyphro Dilemma? Holy shit! Now I know Ive seen it all.
Neil- "1. Can one do and partake in specific Satanic things or activities? 2. Or, is that they do specific things/activities in a Satanic way?"

LMMFAO

The Satan...See more
Interrogist
Nov 17 '13
To answer you Neil, you could as easily discard Satanism as you could god. Only the actions exist, and only intent drives the actions. Reason in that regard is as meaningless as religion. Either hide in the box, or burn the box down, leaving tracks in the ashes on your way out.To answer you Neil, you could as easily discard Satanism as you could god. Only the actions exist, and only intent drives the actions. Reason in that regard is as meaningless as religion. Either hide ...See more
Dan_Dread
Nov 17 '13
for me 'doing satanic things' is doing Satanism, as Satanism to me IS DOING. 'Being' a Satanist, like some sort of 'this is what I am' identity thing is meaningless.

Doing Satanic things for me entails challenging your own boundaries. Crossing the lines and doing things you find hard or uncomfortable, and trying to break out of your own patterns as you notice them.

The 'sinister' is that 'set' of things/ideals you have been trained to believe is wrong, occupying the 'negative set' of a prefabricated dualism. Approaching and doing these 'sinister' things shatters your own duality by removing the negative set.

Nobody can tell you what these activities are for you.
for me 'doing satanic things' is doing Satanism, as Satanism to me IS DOING. 'Being' a Satanist, like some sort of 'this is what I am' identity thing is meaningless.

Doing Satanic thing...See more
Interrogist
Nov 17 '13
Well said Dan, though it is curious to see someone else define the sinister as that which ought to be overcome or surpassed rather than something to be striven for or empathized with. Refreshing to say the least.
Dan_Dread
Nov 17 '13
Actually those are two sides of the same coin.

Embracing these things that are 'sinister' for you until they are comfortable can be key to 'overcoming' this sort of dualistic thinking.
Dan_Dread
Nov 18 '13
Azoth does not give its secrets easily.
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