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XiaoGui17
XiaoGui17 Oct 26

Quote from SIN_JONES It all starts somewhere.  So it's basically society willing to entertain a psychosis and normalize it.  I don't see why people have such a hard time accepting that.  I know the precise moment when my own bisexuality started and why.

Now I'm curious...how? 

Heck if I could put a finger on why. I know that my first sexual dream was about a girl. It surprised me, because it hadn't really occurred to me that was a possibility. But I accepted I liked girls, and that was that. Not a clue what caused it. 

Mr_Scare
Mr_Scare Oct 27
You know I had a dream once I was Kurt Russell. I woke up and realised I wasn't Kurt Russell. It sucks, because I would much prefer to be something other than me.


In all honesty, and I will be brutal here. Men don't give a fuck what your silly made up sexual preferences are. You can like Japanese squid porn for all I care. It doesn't make you more interesting, and in many ways when I hear this kind of conversation, I wonder if I would want my own daughter acting as such.


If it gets you off, then who am I to say otherwise?


Whatever it is, it's just a carnal kink. And that's it. When people start putting retarded labels and acronyms onto it, I know some guy is getting money in his pocket.



SIN_JONES
SIN_JONES Oct 30
Probably due to my sexualization at a young age, I was always astutely aware of my own development.  When I speak on having a greater advantage growing up in 'dysfunction' I really meant that. 
Mr_Scare
Mr_Scare Oct 30
All people do at a young age. It is natural for a male to get curious about what he wants to stick his dick in to. Good parenting will usually sort this confusion out. If you are a good parent, and have a healthy, traditional family (I don't mean Christian values here), then your kid will not grow up to be a faggot. If it is encouraged, and the kid is fed on a diet of Communism and MTV, there is a VERY good chance he/she will grow up warped.



XiaoGui17
XiaoGui17 Oct 30

Quote from Mr_Scare All people do at a young age. It is natural for a male to get curious about what he wants to stick his dick in to. Good parenting will usually sort this confusion out. If you are a good parent, and have a healthy, traditional family (I don't mean Christian values here), then your kid will not grow up to be a faggot. If it is encouraged, and the kid is fed on a diet of Communism and MTV, there is a VERY good chance he/she will grow up warped.




Thank you for sharing your expertise. 


Please, tell me of your qualifications on this subject and what empirical evidence supports this theory. 


Oh, that's right. Qualifications and evidence are for joooooos.

Mr_Scare
Mr_Scare Oct 30
Triggered Miss? What do you want me to do, go to University and get a degree in Biology or something?


Empirical evidence? Take a big long look at the average Antifa rally, or LGBT rights protest.


Faggot Growing <<<Evidence

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XiaoGui17
XiaoGui17 Oct 30

"Triggered" is the panic button of those who can't handle differing opinions, and want to shut down the conversation. Requesting for someone to support their position is inviting a differing opinion, and opening up the conversation.


Those are opposites, hon.


Sorry-not-sorry I gave you a bit of a rib in the process of asking you to back your stuff up. I thought you could handle it. The kid gloves come off, here.


I don't think any less of you for not having attended university. I do think less of you for the deflection of a hard question, though.


"There's a bunch of faggotry at Antifa rallies" is a vague anecdote that fails to illustrate a cause-effect relationship between parenting styles and homo tendencies. You can do better. I believe in you.


Maybe you can start by defining your terms? What do you mean by "good parent" / "healthy, traditional family"? Many of those who sling those terms around mean very different things, so I don't want to assume. We can build from there.


Edit: See you posted a link since I first saw your post. Checking it out.

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XiaoGui17
XiaoGui17 Oct 30

Concerning the video:


So I see a single mom who accepts a tomboy as "trans." This illustrates...nothing, really, for the following reasons:


1) There's absolutely no follow-up with the kid as an adult. For all we know, she will outgrow it and be perfectly straight/ hetero/ normal as an adult despite mom.


2) Even if the kid did grow up to be a raging transboy/ lesbian / Tumblrina whatever, that wouldn't prove that mom's parenting style was what did it. For all we know, it was the hormones in the milk/ fag genes from her mom/ weird preschool teacher who molested her/ any number of other confounding variables. Case studies are flawed for this reason. At best, they give you ideas of what to watch for.


And the faggotry at antifa rallies, similarly, tells us nothing because we don't have any data about their parents. That's speculation. For all we know, they had good ol' traditional families and fell in with a really flaming crowd during their rebellious teen years.


In order to show a cause-effect relationship, you compare large groups over time to get an overall sense of how the numbers shift. You look at the kids with the "traditional" parents as a group, and get an overall picture of how they turned out, and do the same for the kids with the "communist" parents, and compare/contrast. No university degree in biology needed.

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Mr_Scare
Mr_Scare Oct 30
Well, now that we are on familiar terms.


I often wonder if I see society the way others see it. You must have seen the sudden risings of different groups as of late? Whatever acronym they chose the align themselves under is irrelevant. I want to know what machine it is that is separating the good corn from the bad.


Left and Right is kind of old school now. Communism vs Nazism is boring, so the next thing will be some depraved Gender War(s). Everyone is picking a side, in some way at least.


For example, my parents raised me in a fairly traditional way. Traditional for this part of the world. I had a healthy balance of doing normal kid stuff, like hitting other kids with sticks, smashing wasps nests and drinking cheap cider.


If I stepped too out of line, I would be told straight by my parents. And in my view a parent should be strict with their child, but allow them just enough slack so they can hurt themselves, but not too much. This is a whole new topic, which may warrant further discussion.


All in all, be good parent. A good parent would raise a child, so that no poisoning would affect him/her, and let us be honest here, this is a mass poisoning.


Once they opened the flood gates to gay marriage, and all that bullshit, everyone started coming out, and declaring they were gay. The gay people stopped feeling special, and some of them came out as Trans. Then all the Trans people got irked, and started getting operations.


Then the kids were like: "Wait, nobody is paying me attention! Mom I don't like being a boy anymore. I want to cut it off and live through my teenage years as a girl! Freedom, fuck yeah!"


It is nothing more than a disease of the mind, and it is practically pandemic these days.


So in truth I have no qualifications or expertise on this subject. I am guessing you do though?



*EDIT* I see you wrote a second piece just after I posted mine, so only just seen it.


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Mr_Scare
Mr_Scare Oct 30

"Even if the kid did grow up to be a raging transboy/ lesbian / Tumblrina whatever, that wouldn't prove that mom's parenting style was what did it. For all we know, it was the hormones in the milk/ fag genes from her mom/ weird preschool teacher who molested her/ any number of other confounding variables. Case studies are flawed for this reason. At best, they give you ideas of what to watch for."


Notice how you said "Wouldn't prove mom's parenting style was what did it"


True, but if DAD was in there with mom, and dad wasn't a loser, that shit would be rectified.



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XiaoGui17
XiaoGui17 Oct 30
Quote from Mr_ScareSo in truth I have no qualifications or expertise on this subject. I am guessing you do though?

Heh. Fair enough.


I think anyone who claims to be an "expert" on such a subject is trying to sell you something. The best anyone can do is discern whether any posed explanation makes sense, share and compare.


I only tease you about your lack of "expertise" because your written word comes across with an air of authority: "Listen to me, I got this shit figured out." I'm just knocking you down a peg when I see that: "Who are you, and why should I listen to what you have to say?"


I have no more idea what I'm talking about than anyone else. But I try, at least, to be blunt that all I can offer is my own perspective.


Quote from Mr_Scare  I often wonder if I see society the way others see it. You must have seen the sudden risings of different groups as of late?

Yeah, I've seen it. But I don't see it as anything new, just a new variation on a very old pattern.


There have always been scenes throughout history. This SJW shit is just another scene, like punk was a scene and hippies were a scene and flappers were a scene. I see yet another generation having yet another mass identity crisis.


And it's all variations of that same eternal yearning: People want to be special, but they're not. So they try to force it artificially, because being truly special is a combination of rare innate talent and an unbelievable amount of ass-busting that most simply cannot achieve.


Such movements tend to latch onto the "issue of the day." But I don't think the "issue of the day" is really the cause of the phenomenon. It's just something on which to piggyback.


Quote from Mr_ScareIf I stepped too out of line, I would be told straight by my parents. And in my view a parent should be strict with their child, but allow them just enough slack so they can hurt themselves, but not too much. This is a whole new topic, which may warrant further discussion.


All in all, be good parent. A good parent would raise a child, so that no poisoning would affect him/her, and let us be honest here, this is a mass poisoning.


I've gone a bit into my upbringing before. I disagree with many aspects of how my parents raised me, but I'd put them in the 95th percentile compared to my peers.


When you say parents ought to be "strict," well--depending on what you mean by that, my parents could go either way.


On the one hand, my parents were both very protective. My father demanded and enforced that I respect his authority and be obedient. Back-talk or staying up past bedtime would get me smacked upside the head. I had to get high grades. I had to get a job. I had to clean my room and do my chores and all that.


My parents' position on sexuality was...complicated. Did my parents strictly enforce gender roles/ heterosexuality? No. Did my parents take a hard line when it came to sex? Yes.


I came out as "lesbian" at 14. My weird-but-true reason: I had resolved to focus on academics and be celibate throughout high school. I figured "I'm a dyke" was an easy way to deflect male attention, a helpful white lie. Like the imaginary "boyfriend" to let a guy down easy, I thought of it as the ultimate "it's not you, it's me." When I "came out" to my parents as gay, they were totally cool with that--as I knew they would be.


But they were far from "anything goes." My father had a certain "strictness" about what his worldview considered "poison."


When I was 14, my dad discovered some shit in my browsing history. Shit got real very fast. My dad began throttling me and my mother was screaming and threatening to call the cops if he didn't stop.


Two things seemed to bother him. One was legality: someone under 18 looking at "porn" was illegal, and he didn't want any sort of legal trouble. The other was degradation: that I was interested in sex-in-general didn't bug him so much as the fact that my browsing history indicated I was into stuff that was extremely violent and/or debasing. That really bothered him. To him, that was poison. He wanted to impress on me that I should not be into that.


And no, of course it didn't work. As it turns out, you cannot scare or beat a certain sexual proclivity out of someone.


Would it have been any different if my father were more conservative, and he had tried to throttle the gay out me for looking at nekkid ladies? Meh, I doubt it.

SIN_JONES
SIN_JONES Oct 31

Quote from Mr_Scare All people do at a young age. It is natural for a male to get curious about what he wants to stick his dick in to. Good parenting will usually sort this confusion out. If you are a good parent, and have a healthy, traditional family (I don't mean Christian values here), then your kid will not grow up to be a faggot. If it is encouraged, and the kid is fed on a diet of Communism and MTV, there is a VERY good chance he/she will grow up warped.



Well in my case, being raised in a Roman Catholic household is more likely the reason I'm bi.  Esoterics and all that.  Kingdom of God has always been within.  You can become empowered by being pushed over lines.  Or is that not something you consider?  


People tend to protect their comfort zones with much zeal.

XiaoGui17
XiaoGui17 Oct 31

Quote from SIN_JONES
Well in my case, being raised in a Roman Catholic household is more likely the reason I'm bi.  Esoterics and all that.  Kingdom of God has always been within.  You can become empowered by being pushed over lines.  Or is that not something you consider?  


People tend to protect their comfort zones with much zeal.


Exactly. Miss Heteroflexible was raised in a strict Pakistani Muslim home.


I mean, seriously, it's called "Preacher's Daughter Syndrome" for a reason, yo. You try to bottle it up, it only explodes more forcefully when the cap inevitably blows off. 

SIN_JONES
SIN_JONES Oct 31
That's not what I meant.  It's another example of Deterministic cause though.
XiaoGui17
XiaoGui17 Oct 31
 Ah, well. I'll leave it with the acknowledgement that I misread. 
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