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SIN_JONES
SIN_JONES Nov 9
MRI scans used to determine gender


Sexual Dismorphic Nucleus




According to Harvard University:


"Sex determination – the way we are “coded” into a biological sex – is complicated in and of itself. There are far more options than just “male” or “female,” and countless instances of species that can actually transition from one sex to another within a single lifetime. With most mammals, however, the majority of individuals are cisgender male or female; transgender individuals are estimated to comprise about 0.3% of the adult U.S. population."


"The psychological studies that have attempted to unravel the causes of transsexuality, on the other hand, have largely failed to gain traction in modern times. For many years, psychologists characterized transgender identity as a psychological disorder. Some, for instance, believed it was a coping mechanism to “rectify” latent feelings of homosexuality, or the result of environmental trauma or “poor” parenting. No studies have been able to demonstrate this, however, and these “findings” are considered outdated and have been highly criticized for their discriminatory implications. Other psychologists have attempted to differentiate groups of transsexuals based on factors such as IQ and ethnicity; similarly, these theories have been overwhelmingly rejected due to poor study design and issues with ethics."


At the end of the day, it all boils down to Ethical concerns with framing a Trans person as having a mental disorder.  2017 campaigns elected two Trans persons into public office:  Danica Roem and Andrea Jenkins.  Once again it opens the discussion on whether Trans folk should hold public office.


People seem to have memory issues when it comes to Althea Garrison elected in my old Commonwealth of Massachusetts. 


The counter-points continue to be that there is a "body of research" that shows that it's not a mental disorder, that gender is on a spectrum, and anyone towing the party line of binary gender is just a closed-minded bigot.  The idea that the Scientific Community is not in agreement with conclusive findings on gender; is merely a distraction from the real issue.  That it's a .03% growing social issue.  


The harping points are typically that more than 60% of Trans persons experience "debilitating acts of discriminating. (Harvard)" 


If public and advanced education institutions are teaching these subjects to the gen pop and forcing a new Ethic on the populace; this could account for the growing trend of acceptance.  People are less inclined to examine these studies for merit, than they are to co-sign public social policy.


What studies, if any, would you cite to demonstrate that there is bias among the Scientists conducting this research?  What committees would you point to, that force this stuff into education curriculum? 



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dimitri
dimitri Nov 9
Hmmm yes...

Gender-issues. Saying a trans-gender person is unfit is missing the boat and downright idiotic. The thing isn't so much on what gender characteristics are present in the body, it is the gender-identification.

We'll have to call things by their name. Trans-genderism is a biological flaw. A mutation gone wrong. In a sense on the same level as people with Down.

As said before, the problem relies on identity. People seek and want to accomodate rules and behaviourals according to their bodies. To get a sense of control on the randomness and cocktail of hormones within.

While sience makes proper advances, and can determine a higher percentage of the population is actually trans, it is the psychology which is wonky as shit.

The ratios between "normal" and "trans" remain more or less the same. The choice of, or enforcing of, a gender-identity has now become the prime-issue. (Or as I like to call it... the naivo-stupidity of nomos thinking).

No great scientific discovery will help to build a solid foundation or case for transgenderism where it concerns the issue of identity. It is quite literally between the ears.
SIN_JONES
SIN_JONES Nov 10
What studies would you cite?
dimitri
dimitri Nov 10

Quote from SIN_JONES What studies would you cite?

All of them. The fact that the word "Gender-identity" only comes up with studies in Psychology is telling enough about its nature.
The "hard-science"-part lacks and can only be limited to describing hormonal changes, morphic forms and general genetic built-up. It has nothing to say as what you identify as. I can probably pin your bisexualism down due to a slightly heigthened hyperactivity to testosterone and that's where it ends. Your choice of identification as bisexual or heterosexual has all to do with what you feel comfortable by.

It's like trying to pin down why certain people are attracted to inanimate objects. Deviant behaviour through a faulty biological wiring.

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Dan_Dread
Dan_Dread Nov 10

Quote from dimitri
Quote from SIN_JONES What studies would you cite?

All of them. The fact that the word "Gender-identity" only comes up with studies in Psychology is telling enough about its nature.
The "hard-science"-part lacks and can only be limited to describing hormonal changes, morphic forms and general genetic built-up. It has nothing to say as what you identify with.

It's like trying to pin down why certain people are attracted to inanimate objects. Deviant behaviour through a faulty biological wiring.

I would say it's a combination of wiring and experience. Inanimate object guy could have been anally raped with a candlestick by uncle Chuck and later subconscious fetishised candlesticks. Who knows.


There's certainly no real science to it though, just an agenda from the lgbqtlhgbfsdt lobby to interpret any data they can to support their rhetoric.

Mr_Scare
Mr_Scare Nov 11
I would just like to point out something. Is there a reason why studies into this sort of thing that fall into the shadow of the "Right-Wing" political umbrella, are lacking online?


I mean, they are out there, but it is rare.


Could it be that there is an overwhelming amount of scientists out there, who are raging libtard leftists, who are diluting the information to such an extent that theirs is the accepted opinion?


Or could it be, that anything that runs counter to this, is generally mocked for being "Something Hitler would say?", and pushed under the carpet before anyone notices?


I am not sure that I would even want to read a study that shines a positive light on this degenerate fad.


Cultural Marxism is fucking great!


*edited because I am retarded*

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SIN_JONES
SIN_JONES Nov 14
There is definitely a bias in these studies, which is why peer review is detrimental.  However, with the growing trend of social bias, this is why we see so much in 'peer' agreement.  So these so-called legitimate scientific journals stating that gender is a spectrum, not a social disorder do need to be kicked in the head.  There are more and more people towing that party line as if it's a fact fleshed out by the scientific method.  But it isn't.
XiaoGui17
XiaoGui17 Nov 16

Quote from Mr_ScareCould it be that there is an overwhelming amount of scientists out there, who are raging libtard leftists, who are diluting the information to such an extent that theirs is the accepted opinion?


Or could it be, that anything that runs counter to this, is generally mocked for being "Something Hitler would say?", and pushed under the carpet before anyone notices?


Or it could be that interest in the issue of "gender identity" and squishy social sciences is something that tends to attract progressive/ liberal /SJW types, whereas those that write it off as degeneracy are satisfied with that alone and don't feel the need to go picking apart the turd to look for maize kernels.

SIN_JONES
SIN_JONES Nov 16

In his own words, he admires Filipino women that are currently living in the U.S.  He wants to emulate that with blatant disregard of the Philippines Entirely.

DefaultNamesake
Well, she could pass for Appalachia trailer trash no problem, even with the 5-o-clock shadow. But Filipino is a bit of a stretch for any non-mexican.

That's about the only comment this video conjures.
XiaoGui17
XiaoGui17 Nov 18
It's interesting to me how this concept has morphed. It's now the conservatives who are all "You're a man or a woman, male or female, there are two genders," and the sappy liberals who insist there's an in-between/ third gender/ etc.


Pre-Christian societies, manhood was something that had to be earned/ proven/ forged. If someone fell short of the standard of manhoodwhich was usually pretty steephe was some effeminate/ emasculated/ cuckolded less-than-man thing.


And make no mistake about it, they were not "sacred/ honored" the way modern sappy SJWs insist the Native Americans viewed two-spirit people or whatever. They were pariahs. They were treated somewhat like "witches," and all that entailed; treated with fear and condemnation.


Then Christianity came rolling in, and dualism was the name of the game. God goes around separating everything into Zoroastrian dichotomies: night and day, good and evil, material and spiritual, male and female. There may be different roles within genders (wife/ nun/ widow/ etc), but there were only two genders. Christianity is all about conversion, and thus inclusion. The "reject pile" was a thing of the pagan past.


Now, in post-Christian society, we've come full circle. Now the ergi have decided to come back and proudly proclaim themselves as such, and take back the third gender, and wear it as a badge of pride like gangster rappers call themselves "niggers."


What a funny world.

SIN_JONES
SIN_JONES Nov 19
THIS sums it up. 
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SIN_JONES
SIN_JONES Nov 19
Athletes competing 4 college scholarships just got a new edge in New Jersey. 





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DefaultNamesake
Also funny. I think that works fine... It's split into men and womens with special attention paid to the "Jonathon Brandis" in Ladybugs scenario.

I think that will go like:

 "Yeah, we know you are legally female, but you still have a man's body and it's an unfair advantage to you and unsafe for others.  Reclassification denied. But if you want to go ice dance have at it." 

Non-contact Individual sports (Gym, Swimming, Figure Skating) will likely be the "trail blazers". Possibly "women's" lacrosse as well.  I could see the F-M ones hitting the same, "You just don't have the upper body to compete as a male, even if you have something that resembles a cock."

And it IS all stereotypes.


* edit * - Now, further examination is needed for hemophrodites, but even they are split like 70/30 partswise, and usually "streamlined" at birth.

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SIN_JONES
SIN_JONES Nov 19
Another funny. So the U.S. navy upped the PT standards before boot camp regardless of sex.  If you can’t pass it, you’re out.  Recruitment denied. I’d imagine high schools are enacting the same standard. Well, unless you’re native home is Kenya :) 


Now that an Irish chick broke the record, well? Hee hee

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